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	<title>Comments on: Killing the Sacred Cows of Publishing: Agents Can Help with Careers</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy J. Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy J. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working in my home office today, and my wife has an episode of Frasier on in the other room that just had an excellent example of agents helping with careers. I had to share it before I forget the gist of it.

If you&#039;re not familiar, Frasier Crane is a psychiatrist, who after leaving Boston (on Cheers), moved back to his home city of Seattle and became the host of a syndicated radio program. At some point during the series, he had an absolutely abysmal agent named Bebe, who made him miserable.

Apparently, as of this episode, Bebe had left him to work with Dr. Phil McGraw, feeling him a far better client.

In the scene that I just saw, Bebe came back to Frasier and Roz at their favorite coffee house to tell Frasier she&#039;d left Dr. Phil, believing Frasier to be a more up-and-coming client. She then inflated his ego -- easy with Frasier -- and told him of all her grand visions of his career. Below is essentially the dialogue that followed (I didn&#039;t record it or anything).

________

Frasier: Well, Bebe, that&#039;s outstanding! I&#039;d love to have you back as my agent!

Bebe: Very good, Frasier. But you should know, Dr. Phil paid me FIFTEEN percent.

Frasier: I&#039;d be happy to pay that for your skill! I just have to make a rather uncomfortable call to my current agent.

Bebe: Already handled. I took the liberty of informing her myself.

Frasier: Ah, excellent. Thank you, Bebe!

Bebe: Oh, and one more thing. I also called Spokane and told them they were paying far too little for the rights to your show.

Frasier: Excellent! So you got more money from them?

Bebe: No, they declined, so you&#039;re no longer on the air in Spokane!

Roz: What? But isn&#039;t that a step backward?

Bebe: All the better to get a running start, my dear! Good day to you both, I have much work to do. (Exits)

Frasier: Roz, I&#039;m so excited to have Bebe back as my agent.

Roz: Frasier, you&#039;re paying her MORE money, and you&#039;re now no longer on the air in Spokane.

Frasier: Yes, but my future is FIRMLY in front of me.

Roz: Isn&#039;t the future ALWAYS in front of you?

Frasier: Of course! But not FIRMLY. (End scene)
__________________________

Just had to point out such an obvious comedic illustration of the bad agent &quot;helping&quot; with one&#039;s career. Exaggeration, I&#039;m sure, but in order for exaggeration to have effect, it must be grounded in fact.

We, of course, know better than to think this conversation is pure fiction. The conversation might even be reduced so it doesn&#039;t play as over the top.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working in my home office today, and my wife has an episode of Frasier on in the other room that just had an excellent example of agents helping with careers. I had to share it before I forget the gist of it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar, Frasier Crane is a psychiatrist, who after leaving Boston (on Cheers), moved back to his home city of Seattle and became the host of a syndicated radio program. At some point during the series, he had an absolutely abysmal agent named Bebe, who made him miserable.</p>
<p>Apparently, as of this episode, Bebe had left him to work with Dr. Phil McGraw, feeling him a far better client.</p>
<p>In the scene that I just saw, Bebe came back to Frasier and Roz at their favorite coffee house to tell Frasier she&#8217;d left Dr. Phil, believing Frasier to be a more up-and-coming client. She then inflated his ego &#8212; easy with Frasier &#8212; and told him of all her grand visions of his career. Below is essentially the dialogue that followed (I didn&#8217;t record it or anything).</p>
<p>________</p>
<p>Frasier: Well, Bebe, that&#8217;s outstanding! I&#8217;d love to have you back as my agent!</p>
<p>Bebe: Very good, Frasier. But you should know, Dr. Phil paid me FIFTEEN percent.</p>
<p>Frasier: I&#8217;d be happy to pay that for your skill! I just have to make a rather uncomfortable call to my current agent.</p>
<p>Bebe: Already handled. I took the liberty of informing her myself.</p>
<p>Frasier: Ah, excellent. Thank you, Bebe!</p>
<p>Bebe: Oh, and one more thing. I also called Spokane and told them they were paying far too little for the rights to your show.</p>
<p>Frasier: Excellent! So you got more money from them?</p>
<p>Bebe: No, they declined, so you&#8217;re no longer on the air in Spokane!</p>
<p>Roz: What? But isn&#8217;t that a step backward?</p>
<p>Bebe: All the better to get a running start, my dear! Good day to you both, I have much work to do. (Exits)</p>
<p>Frasier: Roz, I&#8217;m so excited to have Bebe back as my agent.</p>
<p>Roz: Frasier, you&#8217;re paying her MORE money, and you&#8217;re now no longer on the air in Spokane.</p>
<p>Frasier: Yes, but my future is FIRMLY in front of me.</p>
<p>Roz: Isn&#8217;t the future ALWAYS in front of you?</p>
<p>Frasier: Of course! But not FIRMLY. (End scene)<br />
__________________________</p>
<p>Just had to point out such an obvious comedic illustration of the bad agent &#8220;helping&#8221; with one&#8217;s career. Exaggeration, I&#8217;m sure, but in order for exaggeration to have effect, it must be grounded in fact.</p>
<p>We, of course, know better than to think this conversation is pure fiction. The conversation might even be reduced so it doesn&#8217;t play as over the top.</p>
<p>Too funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved reading your series about publishing. It is a very different view than from the publishing websites I have been reading, but all the things you are saying make sense to me. 

Your argument about agents not having the writer&#039;s interests in mind,  reminds me about the critisim about real estate agents in the book Freakonomics.

Here is an article about it

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.05/realestate.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cracking the Real Estate Code &lt;/a&gt; 

basically, like a real estate agent, an literary agent only makes a small percentage of the sale, so they have much less incentive than the author to bargain for a higher price.  

here is their example from the article

&lt;blockquote&gt;So on the sale of your $300,000 house, her personal take of the $18,000 commission is $4,500. Still not bad, you say. But what if the house was worth more than $300,000? What if, with a little more effort and patience, she could have sold it for $310,000? After the commission, that puts an additional $9,400 in your pocket. Yet the agent&#039;s additional share - her personal 1.5 percent - is a mere $150. So maybe your incentives aren&#039;t aligned after all. Is the agent willing to put out all that extra time and energy for just $150?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course a literary agent makes a higher percentage, so it is a little less stark, but still you can see how the numbers work.

Here is my example,

Suppose you are offered a 10,000 advance.    If the agent is able to increase the advance 25% to 12,500,    they will only get $375 added to their cut of $1,500. If it takes a week of work and lunches with editors and possibly getting a reputation for being difficult or burning bridges with editors,  $375 is not that much money.   If instead, the agent lets your book go for 10,000,  and uses the week to sign two more new authors for 10,000 advances,  they will earn $3,000 on top of $1,500 from your book. 

You can see the idea. It is in an agents best interest to have many writer clients, and sell their books quickly, with as little time and effort expended as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading your series about publishing. It is a very different view than from the publishing websites I have been reading, but all the things you are saying make sense to me. </p>
<p>Your argument about agents not having the writer&#8217;s interests in mind,  reminds me about the critisim about real estate agents in the book Freakonomics.</p>
<p>Here is an article about it</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.05/realestate.html" rel="nofollow">Cracking the Real Estate Code </a> </p>
<p>basically, like a real estate agent, an literary agent only makes a small percentage of the sale, so they have much less incentive than the author to bargain for a higher price.  </p>
<p>here is their example from the article</p>
<blockquote><p>So on the sale of your $300,000 house, her personal take of the $18,000 commission is $4,500. Still not bad, you say. But what if the house was worth more than $300,000? What if, with a little more effort and patience, she could have sold it for $310,000? After the commission, that puts an additional $9,400 in your pocket. Yet the agent&#8217;s additional share &#8211; her personal 1.5 percent &#8211; is a mere $150. So maybe your incentives aren&#8217;t aligned after all. Is the agent willing to put out all that extra time and energy for just $150?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course a literary agent makes a higher percentage, so it is a little less stark, but still you can see how the numbers work.</p>
<p>Here is my example,</p>
<p>Suppose you are offered a 10,000 advance.    If the agent is able to increase the advance 25% to 12,500,    they will only get $375 added to their cut of $1,500. If it takes a week of work and lunches with editors and possibly getting a reputation for being difficult or burning bridges with editors,  $375 is not that much money.   If instead, the agent lets your book go for 10,000,  and uses the week to sign two more new authors for 10,000 advances,  they will earn $3,000 on top of $1,500 from your book. </p>
<p>You can see the idea. It is in an agents best interest to have many writer clients, and sell their books quickly, with as little time and effort expended as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Buchman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Buchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 16:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three book contract references on my shelf. All read once, though not yet thumbed with experience to be sure of their true usefulness:
Richard Curtis -&quot;How to be your own Literary Agent&quot;
Tonya &amp; Susan Evans -&quot;Literary Law Guide for Authors: Copyright, Trademark, and Contracts in Plain Language&quot;
Tonya Evans-Walls -&quot;Contracts Companion for Writers&quot;
and of course:
Nolo Press -&quot;The Copyright Handbook&quot; because if you don&#039;t understand copyright, then you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re selling and how can you expect to understand the contract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three book contract references on my shelf. All read once, though not yet thumbed with experience to be sure of their true usefulness:<br />
Richard Curtis -&#8221;How to be your own Literary Agent&#8221;<br />
Tonya &amp; Susan Evans -&#8221;Literary Law Guide for Authors: Copyright, Trademark, and Contracts in Plain Language&#8221;<br />
Tonya Evans-Walls -&#8221;Contracts Companion for Writers&#8221;<br />
and of course:<br />
Nolo Press -&#8221;The Copyright Handbook&#8221; because if you don&#8217;t understand copyright, then you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re selling and how can you expect to understand the contract?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Osburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Osburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

Thanks for the advice. I&#039;ll be sending out four more submissions today!

Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice. I&#8217;ll be sending out four more submissions today!</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: dwsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, friendly with just your voice showing while at the same time being professional. If you&#039;ve liked a book from their line recently, mention that. That sort of thing if no credits. Or better yet, just great them and be friendly. Credits help but aren&#039;t critical. Any credit remember, including nonfiction and short story credits help. Also job credits if your job is close to your topic. But again, not critical. Book must stand on its own and they will look if you make it sound interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, friendly with just your voice showing while at the same time being professional. If you&#8217;ve liked a book from their line recently, mention that. That sort of thing if no credits. Or better yet, just great them and be friendly. Credits help but aren&#8217;t critical. Any credit remember, including nonfiction and short story credits help. Also job credits if your job is close to your topic. But again, not critical. Book must stand on its own and they will look if you make it sound interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Osburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Osburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

Fantastic. That was more or less what I expected, but it is nice to see it spelled out. Now that you&#039;ve responded I have another question.  I am a begining novelist.  I literally have no &#039;credits&#039; or &#039;reviews&#039; or really anything that I feel isn&#039;t fluff to add to my &#039;author&#039;s blurb&#039;. Any advice for those of us who can&#039;t put &#039;Dear editor, please find my novel, and by the way, your publishing house has already published 30 of the 120 novels I have written&#039;?

Thanks again,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>Fantastic. That was more or less what I expected, but it is nice to see it spelled out. Now that you&#8217;ve responded I have another question.  I am a begining novelist.  I literally have no &#8216;credits&#8217; or &#8216;reviews&#8217; or really anything that I feel isn&#8217;t fluff to add to my &#8216;author&#8217;s blurb&#8217;. Any advice for those of us who can&#8217;t put &#8216;Dear editor, please find my novel, and by the way, your publishing house has already published 30 of the 120 novels I have written&#8217;?</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: dwsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
First off, be very, very careful to keep the distinction between novels and short story markets clear. For short stories, you only mail one story to one market at a time. (Meaning your story &quot;Title&quot; can only be at one magazine at a time.)  

Novels, it is to your advantage to have it at least five publishers at the same time in case one makes an offer.   As for your questions, #1 &quot;No unsolicited submissions&quot; was the last door, so 1990&#039;s. (grin)  Now the door is &quot;No unagented submissions.&quot; I&#039;m going to answer the question with two questions back. &quot;What&#039;s the worst they can do to you?&quot;  &quot;What&#039;s the best that can happen?&quot;

Answer: Worst they can do is just say no. The best is that they buy your book.

No right answer on #2. All of us tend to do it differently. I tend to do a cover letter, followed by 10-40 pages of the book to give the editor a sense of the writing and how it opens, and then a short synopsis of the novel after the pages to let them know the ending, then sometimes more of an author blub after that or reviews that might help on previous books. (I do put some of my general credits in my cover letter of course.)

#3 was answered above.

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
First off, be very, very careful to keep the distinction between novels and short story markets clear. For short stories, you only mail one story to one market at a time. (Meaning your story &#8220;Title&#8221; can only be at one magazine at a time.)  </p>
<p>Novels, it is to your advantage to have it at least five publishers at the same time in case one makes an offer.   As for your questions, #1 &#8220;No unsolicited submissions&#8221; was the last door, so 1990&#8217;s. (grin)  Now the door is &#8220;No unagented submissions.&#8221; I&#8217;m going to answer the question with two questions back. &#8220;What&#8217;s the worst they can do to you?&#8221;  &#8220;What&#8217;s the best that can happen?&#8221;</p>
<p>Answer: Worst they can do is just say no. The best is that they buy your book.</p>
<p>No right answer on #2. All of us tend to do it differently. I tend to do a cover letter, followed by 10-40 pages of the book to give the editor a sense of the writing and how it opens, and then a short synopsis of the novel after the pages to let them know the ending, then sometimes more of an author blub after that or reviews that might help on previous books. (I do put some of my general credits in my cover letter of course.)</p>
<p>#3 was answered above.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Osburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Osburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean,

I was pointed to your blog yesterday and I’ve been pouring over your advice ever since. With a sigh of relief I have stopped worrying about ‘getting an agent’ as an integral part of building my career in writing. That said, I have a few clarifying questions for you:

1. Should I completely ignore ‘no unsolicited submissions&#039; warnings from publishing houses?

2. If I do ignore those warnings, do I just send in my query letter and first 50 pages? The entire MS? How did/do you do it?

3. Some say they ‘prefer’ no simultaneous submissions. Heh. I ‘prefer’ to be paid in advance in six-to-ten digit amounts, but I’ll take what I can get. Do you ignore the no simultaneous submissions requests?

Thanks,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>I was pointed to your blog yesterday and I’ve been pouring over your advice ever since. With a sigh of relief I have stopped worrying about ‘getting an agent’ as an integral part of building my career in writing. That said, I have a few clarifying questions for you:</p>
<p>1. Should I completely ignore ‘no unsolicited submissions&#8217; warnings from publishing houses?</p>
<p>2. If I do ignore those warnings, do I just send in my query letter and first 50 pages? The entire MS? How did/do you do it?</p>
<p>3. Some say they ‘prefer’ no simultaneous submissions. Heh. I ‘prefer’ to be paid in advance in six-to-ten digit amounts, but I’ll take what I can get. Do you ignore the no simultaneous submissions requests?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Nicholson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I used to think a lot of these things, and thought I must be crazy, because everyone else in the world and all the major writing organizations are saying &quot;Get an agent. Do what they say. Because they are smarter than you are.&quot;

Thanks. I can fire my shrink now. I already fired my agents.

Scott Nicholson
http://hauntedcomputer.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I used to think a lot of these things, and thought I must be crazy, because everyone else in the world and all the major writing organizations are saying &#8220;Get an agent. Do what they say. Because they are smarter than you are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks. I can fire my shrink now. I already fired my agents.</p>
<p>Scott Nicholson<br />
<a href="http://hauntedcomputer.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://hauntedcomputer.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laura Resnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Resnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post today from John Scalzi, an award-winning and bestselling science fiction writer, pointing out that no one&#039;s advice in this biz is ever 100% accurate or useful for anyone else, and that one should be wary of advice from anyone who insists that -their- advice -is- 100% useful and accurate. Scalzi recommends filtering anyone&#039;s advice through your own knowledge and experience. And he links to a couple of other blogs by writers recommending pretty much the same thing:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/02/14/various-sundry-21410/

What I always say is: Take what you need and leave the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post today from John Scalzi, an award-winning and bestselling science fiction writer, pointing out that no one&#8217;s advice in this biz is ever 100% accurate or useful for anyone else, and that one should be wary of advice from anyone who insists that -their- advice -is- 100% useful and accurate. Scalzi recommends filtering anyone&#8217;s advice through your own knowledge and experience. And he links to a couple of other blogs by writers recommending pretty much the same thing:</p>
<p><a href="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/02/14/various-sundry-21410/" rel="nofollow">http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/02/14/various-sundry-21410/</a></p>
<p>What I always say is: Take what you need and leave the rest.</p>
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