Four Novels A Year: The Math of It. Again.

Interestingly enough, lots of great discussion and feedback on the math post. But the item I got the most grief about privately and on a couple Twitter comments was me using Four Novels a Year pace. (How dare I suggest writers write that fast? Not kidding. Someone actually said that to me. Head-shaking, I know.)

Now, for those of you who have followed this silliness here for a while, you know I’ve done a few major posts about speed and typing.

One post was called Speed in the New World of Publishing series under the same tab at the top of the page. That chapter talked about writing fast and how slow writers in this new world will have trouble. And what writing “fast” actually means. You can find that chapter Here.

A second, and more recently updated post on this topic, is in the Killing the Sacred Cows of Publishing series. It’s about the myth of how people think that writing fast equals writing poorly. You can find that full post Here.

If you have read or reread those, what I am about to say should make you smile.

Since the questions and nasty comments about the “speed” came about from a post about math and indie publishing, let me go over the math of “speed” of writing just one more time.

(Stop giggling you in the back row.)

First off, being a fast writer does not mean the person types fast. At least for most of us it doesn’t mean that. I type with four fingers and am lucky to get 750 words to 1,000 words per hour. Being a fast writer means the person writing just sits in front of the computer longer than most and actually produces new words.

So lets say you can type 250 words in 15 minutes on average. Slower at the start of a novel, faster toward the end.

Math: 250 words x 365 days = 91,250 words.

That’s a novel.

That means to write one novel a year a “professional writer” must spend 15 minutes per day at it.

(See why I say I love this job???  That’s all the expectations anyone puts on me. Don’t you wish your real world job was this easy?)

Those of you who take longer than a year to write a book will have to do your own math. And attempt to figure out what you do all day with your time.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know… What about research and rewriting and thinking and taking cleaner to the computer screen? All that takes time. Well, at 15 minutes of typing per day, you sure have time for all that I suppose.

So four books per year means that a writer, producing new words, must produce new words for one hour per day.

But wait!!  What about days off, sick days, weekends, vacations from the hard grind????

All right, I know this profession is hard work, so let’s figure you only work five days per week and take two weeks off for vacation time.  That means you have 247 working days in a year.

You want to finish four books each 80,000 words long. 320,000 words divided by 247 days = 1,296 words per day.  Yup, you have to work an extra 15-20 minutes per day to allow yourself to take that time off and still produce four books per year.  (1,296 words per day divided by 250 words every fifteen minutes = 1 hour, 20 minutes)

Wow, working an hour and twenty minutes per day, five days per week, with two weeks off just might kill a person.

Oh, for heaven’s sake, go ahead…. figure in rewriting time. At one hour and twenty minutes per day of actual typing, you have more than enough time. Say you did a major redraft and rewrite for each book. That’s another hour and twenty minutes.

Oh, wait, you have to rewrite it a third time. Add in another hour.

You are up to three hours forty minutes per day, five days per week.

And you might just get that computer screen cleaned a few times as well.

By the way, just so you know that I know what I am talking about, I wrote my first published novel in 1986 and it came out in 1988 from Warner. But for the moment let’s forget about that one and just start from my second novel written and published in 1992 after I got done with Pulphouse.

That was 19 years ago!!!  (I didn’t need to think about that.) I have published 104 traditional novels now since 1992 (none indie published yet…all through New York companies). All of them were between 70,000 and 100,000 words.

That’s a 5.4 novels-per-year pace FOR NINETEEN YEARS.

So figuring 4 novels per year in my math post was cutting back for me.

(I just wish this new indie publishing world had existed in 1992 and I had been indie publishing all those books for those 19 years. Wow, would I be rich… Don’t think about it, Dean… just go clean your screen.)

 

 

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99 Responses to Four Novels A Year: The Math of It. Again.

  1. Ginny Baker says:

    Jeez, I wrote a reply and then chickened out and didn’t send it. You didn’t miss anything–it was just the classic Whine of the Day Job Folks who don’t have the freedom of those hours to put into the work.

    And I deleted it because, I suppose, no matter how true it is for those of us with day jobs–the fact that we are NOT going to be able to write 4 books a year no matter HOW fast we write–it’s also true that if you don’t try, you fail before you begin.

    So let me say this, and agree with Dean in a way that may be more visceral (or just less polite) to anyone lurking in the wings, shaking their heads at this. No, I’m not going to tell ALL of you that you should be writing 4 books a year. I know that if you’re giving an employer 8-12 hours a day, that’s not going to happen. But I will say this: What’s shocking to me are the REASONS some people have for writing so slowly–it’s so damned self limiting! If you have placed any of these limitations on yourself, shed them as soon as you can…preferably BEFORE you have a mortgage, a dog and 2.3 kids.

    For those of you who do have the luxury of all that time to write (and actually DO want to be writers), if you’re not using it, yours are the asses that I want to kick. Not because I hate you, but because I hate-hate-hate not having that luxury for myself. My limjtations are not self imposed. For me, the desire to write full time is so strong, and so damned curtailed by financial responsibilities I can’t get out of, just hearing this stuff engenders one long howl of frustration!

    On the other hand, I don’t have to kick anyone’s butt. Reality will do it for me. (God knows it’s kicking mine!) Waste time, and what you’re really wasting is your future.

    If you can’t figure out how to write quickly AND well, Kris and Dean will teach you. Learn it, do it now.

  2. Rob Cornell says:

    Steve Lewis said: “Four of which were below 45,000 words. The other two were 65 and 70 thousand words.”

    Here’s a stupid question, Steve: How did you figure out the word count on those novels? I think it would be interesting to see what the word-counts are for popular indie pubbed novels.

  3. K. W. Jeter says:

    Check out http://www.trivia-library.com/c/20-most-prolific-authors-and-writers-in-literary-history.htm

    Of course, as we were talking about before, I imagine that most of these wrote novels that were on the shorter end of the word-count spectrum. I remember Creasey’s novels as being on the short side — never read one that I didn’t enjoy, though.

    • dwsmith says:

      Oh, wow, KW does that list miss a ton of writers. Silverberg and Resnick would be way into that list at least. So would Lawrence Block. All three are credited with a couple hundred books just in the soft-core porn (now called hot romance) in the 1960s. R.L. Fanthorpe would be way up there, as well as Guy Smith, both British. And both are still writing like crazy last I heard. And that’s just off the top of my head. A silly list and not well researched, sadly.

      • dwsmith says:

        Also, this list only has Barbara Cartland at 200 plus books. Her count was closer to 700 and she often did far over twenty novels per year. She could have done 200 books in the last ten years of her life and she lived to something like 90. (grin) Also this list also misses Spanish author Corin Tellado (some not sure if that is the author’s real name or not) who is credited with thousands of books.

        Wow, I sure wish someone would do a real listing of prolific authors. I can’t find any sign of one at all.

  4. K. W. Jeter says:

    Yeah, you’re right about the list shorting Cartland. Guinness gives her the nod for most novels in a single year, at 23. Though my understanding is that she really pioneered the factory approach to churning out books, at least toward the end of her career, with her just doing the outlining and a posse of other writers doing the actual wordage that showed up on the pages. James Patterson is doing the same thing now. I’m a little queasy about counting books produced that way in the game stats, at least without a little asterisk beside them. I’m pretty sure Creasey wrote every damn word himself, as did Silverberg.

  5. Joe Cleary says:

    Ginny, I know what you are saying about having a full time job, but I think most writers start out that way and some are still very productive.
    I know I used to whine about all the writing time I didn’t have because I work for a wage for 40 to 50 hours every week.
    Then, I sat down with a pen and paper and actually wrote out a schedule. Even with work and a commute, I realized that I had at least 20 hours a week that I could be writing, and still have two nights a week out with the wife and friends along with enough time to keep the house in order. Some of that entails waking up at 4:30 every morning to write before work and giving up an hour or two in the evening, but I feel like once I get accustomed to the new way of spending my time I’ll be much happier for it.
    Obviously everyone has different circumstances. I don’t have children, which makes my time away from work a lot more flexible. Still, I’d bet most people could benefit from a real look at their schedule in search of writing time. I believe that the only thing that kept me from writing 20+ hours a week was fear, based on a lot of the myths Dean addresses here.
    Hopefully you can find a schedule that squeezes into the rest of your life. Make sure there’s nothing else holding you back but time.

    • dwsmith says:

      Yup, I had three jobs when I got serious about writing. I owned my own bookstore, but since that didn’t make much money, I worked as a bartender four nights a week and drove school bus five days a week as well. Morning and afternoon. No time at all. But somehow I carved out the time to write and mail a short story per week. For numbers of years. Until I could change my work situation. Sold my bookstore, moved to the Oregon Coast, got a cheap house, my wife at the time got a good job and I went to work for Kip (who now owns the Anchor) at his restaurant five nights a week. Only one job felt like freedom and I wrote my first two novels and a bunch of short stories (all lost in a house fire).

      So even though it looks wonderful me sitting here with only one thing to do and that’s write and talk about writing and work on writing and publishing, it took me a lot of years and focus to get to this point. The key was I turned my back on my “career-training” education of architecture and law school to stay focused on writing. No one ever said the decisions to become a writer are easy and the sacrifices you must make are easy either. Your goal is to be an internationally-selling writer. If you think that’s easy, you best think again. But once you get here, it’s the best job on the planet.

  6. I can type pretty fast. I can type around 70-80 words a minute. But it takes me 3 or 4 hours to write 1000 words. That’s because about half my writing time is thinking, planning visualizing, etc. I don’t see how writing can happen without that mental air time accompanying it. I agree with the idea of producing 4 books per year, but I want them to be the very best they can be and I can’t do that in 15 minutes.

    I did NaNoWriMo twice and both times what I produced was unmitigated crap. Those steaming piles could not be edited into novels in a month or a year of months. They were just proof of how fast I can type. I’ve done a lot of typing in my life. Writing is much more fun, though much slower.

    • dwsmith says:

      Susan, whatever works for you works for you if you. And if you are selling and creating publishable fiction don’t change it. But if you are not selling the way you want to be, maybe let someone read one of those “unmitigated crap” you wrote. Authors are the worst judges of their own work. Maybe you believe that because you only “typed” it that it is bad. That you didn’t “think” enough (meaning critical brain usage). I saw a ton of myths in your short post I’m afraid, but if you are selling novels regularly, for heavens sake don’t change anything. Never change a method that’s selling. But if you are not, might want to really look at the myths once again and let others be the judge of your “typing.”

      Just a friendly suggestion. Nothing more.

  7. Ginny said: “…For those of you who do have the luxury of all that time to write (and actually DO want to be writers), if you’re not using it, yours are the asses that I want to kick. Not because I hate you, but because I hate-hate-hate not having that luxury for myself. My limjtations are not self imposed. For me, the desire to write full time is so strong, and so damned curtailed by financial responsibilities I can’t get out of, just hearing this stuff engenders one long howl of frustration!…”

    So don’t write four books a year. Write three, or two, or even one. There’s no “one true way” to be a writer, except to get out of your own way and write.

    I’ve only written three books in the last three years – all around a heavy workload, some pretty significant family and personal issues, and other responsibilities that I didn’t have the luxury of just walking away from. But am I beating myself up over that? Not at all! Because those three books are more than I’d written in the three (or four or more) years before.

    Life tosses all sorts of things at us, it always will. And those things will eat up our time, make demands on our energies, and present all manner of roadblocks to our progress. I chipped away at “Synth: Gold Record” for too many years to admit, trying to steal large blocks of time

  8. (oops! bumped the “Submit” button by accident)

    …as I was saying, I chipped away at “Synth” for a long time, wishing for those big blocks of time that I could dedicate to doing nothing but writing. (Still wishing for them, to be honest!). And even after all that, a year ago, the book was only scratching 36K words and my POV character was getting pretty pissed off at me for leaving her in unpleasant situations for months between writing sessions.

    It was only when I realized that I could actually finish the book if I just wrote a little bit every day – and then picked it up last summer and said, “Why not?” and just put in the butt-in-the-chair time around work, around family, around life, that I finally finished the book. Took it from 36K to 150K in about six months (that really surprised me, but the story just told itself, all I did was type it). My first readers loved it, and I actually managed to put it up before the end of the world (it went up as an ebook on “Rapture” day).

    I guess all I’m trying to say is that shaking free of the myth doesn’t mean you have to write four books a year – it just means that you let yourself write to the pace that life allows, let yourself enjoy the fun of creating a cool new world and characters, let yourself have fun with just being a writer and making it up as you go along, your own way.

  9. K. W. Jeter says:

    The paradigm of somebody who had a full-time job and also managed to get a lot of writing done is Anthony Trollope. Not just a job, but a pretty high-up career in the British Post Office — he reputedly introduced the once-ubiquitous red pillar boxes. According to his diaries, he put himself on a rigorous words-per-hour production schedule. In terms of quality-to-quantity ratio, Trollope might really take the prize. Much admired in my household.

  10. Camille says:

    One thing I’d like to point out to those who can’t write as fast as they’d like (and I’m one) — it’s really hard to learn to write better, and faster and with more sureness when you’re working on novels.

    If you want to improve those skills — the skills involved in finishing and creating a whole — you’ve got to do it with shorter works, IMHO. It’s takes a lot of repetition to learn a skill, and you just can’t write that many novels.

    Develop your speed with short fiction, and hold your speed when writing novels.

  11. Ashley McConnell says:

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    I can type the word “the” a thousand times a day, 247 days a year, and you know what? It’s not a novel, and it won’t sell. Writing, as you know very well, is not typing. If you can’t , come up with STORY, mere TYPING is not going to produce a novel.

    I tried to produce four novels in one year, while working a full-time job. I burned out, and was so late on the last book that my agent and my editor were trying to decide to whom they should re-assign the thing. (Yeah, I found out about it a couple of years later. One reason why she’s not my agent any more.)

    If you’ve got the story, sure you can do four average-length books a year at a thousand words a day. Of course, you also have to plot the things, revise them once or twice, sell them, and promote them, and it’s going to take a bit more than an hour a day to do all that.

  12. Ginny Baker says:

    Everyone’s life is indeed different. I wrote a lot more–all my short stories–before the kiddo came along and I became mom, dad and houseful of siblings to her. I was working full time in those days, too, yet I had the luxury of hours that were all mine when I came home. Now, I can’t even put her to bed at 7 and go play in writerland. But college is on the horizon, right? :-)

  13. Camille says:

    I’m doing the Clarion Write-A-Thon this summer, and I’ve pretty much discovered that when I’m on, and not slacking at all, I write about at half the rate Dean describes here.

    I posted about that on my blog today — to the effect of: Whether you can write 1000 words in an hour is not relevant. That’s not the point here. The point is that you need to know how much you can write, and then you need to stop and weigh how much it costs you to watch that TV show or argue with people who are wrong on the internet, or the time you spend tagging or marketing…. or even blogging.

    Furthermore, I think that for those of us who write slowly, a big part of our problem is inertia and momentum. We don’t have momentum, so we end up spinning our wheels during writing sessions, rather than learning to build momentum so we don’t have to take so much time.

    • dwsmith says:

      Camille, got that in one. Momentum is everything for me as well. I hate starting, but writing is great once I get going. That’s part of the reason this short story challenge is tough for me because I have to start a new story so often. Momentum is everything.

  14. Rob Cornell says:

    Ashley, have you read any of Dean’s Killing the Sacred Cows posts? Your last paragraph is full of myths that he busts apart in the series. I would highly recommend them.

    • dwsmith says:

      Rob, I have learned that I don’t question when someone like Ashley who is buried in myths and still making it work. If selling is happening, the writer has figured out a way to put the myths into a balance and make them work and tipping that balance may hurt worse than just leaving the myths alone. Success is the key element. Writing out of myths, however, will always fail eventually. It might take five or ten books, but it will fail. That’s when most writers either clear the myths out and fire up again (called a crash we have talked about before) or just quit because the myths are too powerful. It sounds like Ashley has had success. Each writer is different. Myths work for some people. Not for most, but for some.

      Weird, isn’t it, that I’m supporting a person who seemed angry at me and spouted myths at me in defense against my post. But I am because every writer is different and if Ashley, for the moment, has found something that is working and allowing him to sell and make a living, then his method works for him and he should defend it.

  15. Ginny Baker says:

    Reminds me of those old Jane Fonda workout videos, with two constantly stated and seemingly contradictory mantras:

    “Feel the burn.”

    and

    “Do your best.”

    But she was right, really, because it’s what you do in between that makes the difference. Challenge yourself, but don’t burn out.

    Dean, I suppose my next question is, just because it’s possibly, mathematically, to write four books, is it NECESSARY?

  16. Ginny Baker says:

    (Sorry, like Leigh, I hit the Send button accidentally.)

    When I ask if it’s necessary to write four books a year (or 10, or 20–other numbers I’ve heard discussed, even as much as a book a week), I’m asking, are those just shiny goals we can use to challenge ourselves with? Or are you also saying that this is what it takes to make a living at writing?

    Obviously the more books you write, the more chances you have at making money, which is the only thing that can turn this into a full-time job.

    And just as obviously, I’ve answered my own question, because there really IS no answer that works for everyone. How many books you need to write a year to make a living depends on two things: 1) how much of a living you need to make and 2) how much money your books earn.

    How hard you work at making the latter happen is also a factor, but it’s a scary one, because in this business, hard work is necessary for success, but does not in any way guarantee it.

    So now we’re looking at an entirely different equation, one that incorporates an almost algebraic statement where X is unknowable, because X is the success factor and that factor cannot be predicted or planned for, but only quantified after the fact.

    Stephenie Meyer did not write 4 books a year. She wrote 5 books in 8 years and those books have earned more than $400 million (and counting). That is, of course, winning the literary lottery,and while most of us wish we could do it too, it’s a statistical probability that we won’t.

    More realistically, I’ve heard other pros say they average 2-3 books a year. Some of these writers have made a viable living doing this and others have barely made a living at all.

    So the X factor does seem to come into play when it comes to how many books you need to write a year to do this full time.

    The more you write, the greater your chances of success. We can’t escape the crapshoot elements involved, but–not doing it at all gets us nowhere faster than anything else does. The more of it you do, the better you get at it. You become more efficient BY doing it. You get faster through that efficiency. You produce more because of that efficiency. It’s a learned thing.

    I suppose in that way it’s like being a runner. You find your rhythm, and when you find that, you know how much you can do compare to what you know you have to do, and then what you have to do becomes a little less daunting with every stride you take.

    • dwsmith says:

      Ginny said, “The more you write, the greater your chances of success. We can’t escape the crapshoot elements involved, but–not doing it at all gets us nowhere faster than anything else does. The more of it you do, the better you get at it. You become more efficient BY doing it. You get faster through that efficiency. You produce more because of that efficiency. It’s a learned thing. I suppose in that way it’s like being a runner. You find your rhythm, and when you find that, you know how much you can do compare to what you know you have to do, and then what you have to do becomes a little less daunting with every stride you take.”

      Exactly. Since every writer is different, I would never begin to tell any writer they “should” do something. However, that said, the more you write, the better storyteller you become and the more chances of success you have. Also, the math works better. (grin)

      If you say you want to make $50,000 per year and only write one book per year, five years down the road each of those five books must be carrying a $10,000 per year income weight.

      However, if you write four books per year, five years down the road each book must only be carrying a $2,500 income weight. (About $200 per month per book.) And ten years down the road at 4 books per year each book only has to carry about $100 plus per month income load on average for you to make $50,000 a year. Math is a wonderful thing.

      Writing more does help. How much more? Well, that depends on each author, their own set of myths, and how much of a hurry they are in.

  17. Steve Lewis says:

    @Rob: I got the word count for John Locke’s novels off of Smashwords. They list an approximate for all the ebooks on their site.

  18. Rob Cornell says:

    Thanks, Steve. That makes sense. I’ll check it out.

  19. K. W. Jeter says:

    Kind of a shame that Viktor Frankel’s book MAN’S SEARCH FOR MEANING isn’t as popular as it used to be. (Used to see it around all the time.) He was a psychotherapist (and Auschwitz survivor) who successfully treated an extreme case of writer’s block by telling the patient to deliberately attempt to write the worst book ever written by anyone. Which got the patient writing — and publishing — again. Granted, writer’s block is the extreme form of Low Productivity Syndrome, but the therapeutic principle is the same, that anything on paper, no matter how bad, is better than nothing on paper.

    • dwsmith says:

      K.W. said, (and I agree), “…anything on paper, no matter how bad, is better than nothing on paper.”

      Spot on the money. Some of you may want to put that on your wall over your computer.

      And that attitude is how I get through these challenge stories with all you out there watching. I just allow myself to write anything, give myself permission to just have fun and not care what anyone thinks and the moment I do that my fingers can just fly over the keys (well, I only type with two fingers on one hand and two on the other, but it seems like they are flying. (grin))

  20. Rob Cornell says:

    Here’s something I also discovered, and was reminded of during this morning’s writing session. Dean has talked about how the feeling and experience of the writer during the writing has little to do with the actual writing. I think the same could be said for a writer’s sense of his/her own writing speed. This morning I felt like I was just slogging through the writing. I just KNEW I wasn’t going to hit my usual goal of 1500 words in the two hours I had scheduled for the morning. Then, at the end of the session, with some trepidation, I check the word-count.

    2100 words.

    I swore I was struggling with the words. Apparently my creative mind wasn’t having as hard a time of things as my critical mind. :)

    In other words, you might be able to write faster than you think. Heck, you might BE writing faster than you think.

  21. James A. Ritchie says:

    For me, the number of books I write each year is really just a result, not a goal.

    What matters to me is how much time I spend actually writing. Not researching, not promoting, not revising, not thinking about writing, not plotting, etc. These things are all part of the mythology. All of them.

    Now do I weigh how much doing this or that, be it TV, an unexpected invitation for a day out with a friend or family member, or any otehr excuse I can find, and they’re all just excuses. I know it always costs too much, if it takes away from time I should be using for writing.

    But the thing is, I don’t worry about two books per year, or ten books per year. I have no such goals. For me, looking ahead in this way builds a mountain I’m not sure I can climb.

    Just thinking, “I have to write five novel in next thirteen months” fills me with dread. It looks like a task that would kill me.

    So what I worry about each and every day is simply how much time I spend actually writing TODAY. Not thinking about writing, not researching, not revising, not marketing, not anything except writing.

    That’s it. If I do this one thing, if I simply spend as much time writing TODAY as I should, I will get those four or five books, those thirty or forty short stories, and probably that screenplay, but not because I planned them, not because I looked ahead and build a mountain of doubt, but because all those things are the natural outcome of dispelling the myths and doing what I need to do, one day at a time.

    It’s amazing how much completed work piles up when you get rid of the myths, and when you understand that all there is to writing is sitting down and writing, day in and day out.

    • dwsmith says:

      I’m with James, actually. Except for challenges like the one I am doing (and did early in my career), my writing over the years always just turned out to be what I got done. Deadlines from publishers often set timelines, but more times than not at the end of the year I was surprised at how much I got done during a year. I did the same thing James does. I just focused on making sure I got to new words as much as possible. He is right, it is easier to do just one thing, and that’s focus on producing new words every day. Stunning how that adds up.

      Thanks, James. Well said.

  22. Camille says:

    I do think Rob’s point about not knowing how fast you write is a good one. I’ve found that daily word count goals do help because they help you see not only what you can do, but the variations in it.

    I think the biggest key is to figure out what works FOR you. If word count goals give you hives, don’t use them.

    Goals of how many books in a year? I think looking at the math (as in this post) is good for you because you see the possibilities. However, for some that math will be depressing and sobering, and for others it will give them some “irrational exuberance.” But you get over that.

    One thing Dean’s challenge has done for me is turn ‘goals’ back into a game. When I watch him drop it, and then pick it up and then go off the rails in another way — that reminds me not to waste any time beating myself up for changing my mind.

    • dwsmith says:

      Camille…off the rails?? Heck, for over a month there I didn’t even do a challenge story… I was so far off the rails, I couldn’t see them anymore. (grin) But the key with any challenge is not that you fail at times, it’s the climbing back on and keeping going.

  23. K. W. Jeter says:

    Just finished a 50k+ novel in exactly 2 weeks. Not a world’s record, maybe not even a personal best, but I’m happy.

    • dwsmith says:

      Hey, fantastic, K.W.!! Great news as a fan of your work. Let me know where it ends up. Looking forward to reading it.

  24. K. W. Jeter says:

    Will do. I’m planning on epubbing it as the start of a series, under a pseudonym.

  25. Rob Cornell says:

    Wow, K.W. How many hours a day did you put in to pull that off? I’d love to do that, but conflict with the wife’s work schedule and the kids makes it difficult to get the necessary time.

  26. K. W. Jeter says:

    Rob, family is definitely an issue. It’s easier for me because I don’t have kids and my wife is okay with me going off and amusing myself as long as I don’t set fire to anything. I worked mainly in the afternoons and tried to get 3000 words done by 5 p.m. Then I’d start up again after dinner and shoot for getting another 2000 before going to bed. I didn’t make it every day, but had a couple of 6000 days and also worked on the weekends to make up the deficit. How somebody with kids could do that, I just don’t know. But there are writers who have done it — must take ferocious discipline.

  27. Rob Cornell says:

    Yeah, I wake up at 5am to get my writing in each day. It’s the only time I can make sure I’m uninterrupted and get any significant work done. You do what you gotta, right?

  28. K. W. Jeter says:

    Dean — Did my email w/ attachment get past your spam filter?

    • dwsmith says:

      K.W., just found it. Got trapped by my second one, but I have moved it forward. Thanks!!! Looking forward to reading it.

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